Interview: Acteur Mark Ruffalo als The Hulk
Hollywood ster en Super-Dad Mark Ruffalo is te zien in de nieuwe Thor film als The Incredible Hulk. Een rol die hij al eerder speelde voor The Avengers reeks.
Tijdens een interview met Marvel vertelt Ruffalo hoe het is om de rol van de hulk te vertolken. Zo vertelt hij onder anderen over de verschillen tussen de characters van de professor Bruce Banner en het razende monster waarin hij veranderd. Ook laat Ruffalo weten de vrijheid te waarderen voor zijn rol maar ook die van Chris Hemsworth, die de rol van Thor heeft. “Veel dichterbij een Noorse god dan Chris komen we niet” vertelt hij. Lees het volledige interview hieronder
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What are the changes to your character in this film?
In this story Banner’s been basically inside the Hulk for two years when we find him. During that time, the way I imagine it, is that he’s gone into a deep rest. During this all of the traumatic things in his life that have been making him afraid, making him doubtful, making him unable to enjoy his life, have been erased. His neurotransmitters and neuropathways have been completely rewired.
So when he comes awake he’s like an eight-year-old or 12-year-old boy. He has the same exuberance and curiosity and wonder that he did before he lost his mother and father and before he experienced all the other traumatic things that happened in his life.
He finally also realizes that he’s free of the Hulk. We’re cut free from any of the conceits that the Hulk and Banner’s relationship has had up until this moment. Hulk’s no longer turning to the Hulk or from the Hulk depending on Banner’s anger. Hulk’s now prescient.
Hulk can be sad or happy. He’s speaking. He’s not only alive because of rage, so we can start to have more geography in the character’s emotional life, his intelligence, what he does, what he eats, if he sleeps—all the questions I’ve been dying to ask for years since playing this part. And Banner is free to be less guarded with himself, his emotions, the way he lives his life. He doesn’t have this beast hanging over him ready to spring at any given moment, which I think in a lot of ways keeps Banner from being fully alive.
It’s a different Banner and a different Hulk. So I get to play two totally different characters in this movie, which is really fun.
Is Hulk the same physical character as in the previous movies?
He’s more upright. There isn’t that component of rage all the time. So there’s more relaxation in his body. He’s doing normal things now to sustain himself. He has to eat. He has to bathe. He sleeps. There’s even something very childlike about him as well. He’s just discovering foods, for example.
What is the relationship between Hulk and Banner now?
Contentious as hell. They’re inextricably bound to each other. There’s no one without the other, and yet they’re in absolute opposition to each other. It’s funny, but we keep hearing Banner repeating a slightly different version of the same line that Hulk has in his personality.
That’s something that I keep finding as we’re working because we’ve been improvising quite a bit. It’s something that Taika and I set our sights on early on, but we didn’t really understand how we were going to get there. We just knew that we wanted to keep touching on this feeling that they are, connected to each other in this deep way.
Although they seem to be completely on the opposites, they still meet somewhere. There is that thin edge of the coin where they meet. And that’s the key to the future of Hulk and Banner’s relationship. What’s happening on that thin line between them? What we are going to see is a convergence of these two characters that will take a space that is occupied at the same time.
What is their relationship like with Thor?
Hulk gets launched off into space at the end of “Avengers: Age of Ultron” and he ends up on this planet Sakaar. And that’s basically where Thor finds Banner and Hulk. It follows the comic that Hulk has become the champion of this planet as a gladiator. He doesn’t turn into Banner anymore because he’s always fighting and raging. Thor ends up on Sakaar when he is captured as he’s moving through his quest to find himself. He has to fight in the gladiator stadium against the champion, and when the champion comes out he realizes he’s fighting Hulk. Thor thinks he has a friend in Hulk, but it’s much more complicated than he thinks.
Ragnarok is part of the Norse mythology that Thor lives in. It signifies the end of times. Like many other mythologies it prophesizes the end of times that we know. What’s interesting about the movie is that the old system is failing them. It’s a patriarchal system that has lost its magic. It’s lost its credibility and its legitimacy. There’s an interesting allegory going on here that at the end of the day Thor ends up sharing leadership and power with his female equal.
Let’s talk about the new characters.
We have Hela, played by Cate Blanchett. She has all the power, all the strength, all the talent of any of the other gods, but with all the rage. She’s angry, and she wants to come back and take what she feels is rightfully hers. Except that she’s been pushed so far into the darkness that she’s become dark. She’s now the manifestation of death.
Then you have Valkyrie, played by Tessa Thompson. She is another female presence who didn’t feel welcome. She’s a powerhouse and a brilliant fighter. She’s as equally as powerful as Thor. She’s a warrior. Valkyrie is one of the people who ended up banishing Hela from Asgard. But she’s also lost faith in the patriarchy and the elite power structure.
It’s great that we have Cate Blanchett and Tessa Thompson, these two amazing, powerful, strong, beautiful, intelligent women, playing these two important, integral characters in this movie.
Where does Loki fit into this particular story?
Loki is, again, his mischievous self. He’s playing both sides and ends up on the planet as well. Loki has no allegiance to anything even though Thor is constantly trying to invigorate this idea that he can be good and do the right thing. In this movie Thor gives up on that idea. Loki becomes this go-between facilitator between the Grandmaster of the planet Sakaar and Thor but only to save his own skin and only for his own gain. Classic Loki.
What is great about Chris Hemsworth as Thor?
Chris Hemsworth is as close to a Norse god as you could possibly get. He’s talented. He’s beautiful. He’s super smart. He’s strong. He’s a great actor, and he’s fun. What’s really fun about him in this movie is that he breaks loose. He’s free in way like Banner’s free in this movie. Thor’s been such a good boy. He’s done all the right things. He’s been such a good son. He’s so moral. Everything about him has been perfect. And at the same time I think he’s bored of himself and in a crisis. Thor’s character arc in this movie is great for Chris, too, because he’s getting to do things in this movie that he’s never been able to do.
Tell us about the “welcome to the country” ceremony.
The aborigine natives here did an opening ceremony. Taika Waititi, the director, is a Maori. So these people that did the ceremony are his Maori brothers here in Australia. They came to bless the movie. I’ve been to Native American blessings for the climate march in America that we had a couple years ago. They’re always beautiful and sincere and invigorating and lovely and communal. So, I was excited to be part of the welcoming ceremony on this movie. There’s a lot of wisdom in that culture that we could carry with us.
Taika’s family and his friends all came over from New Zealand to support him that day. It was really beautiful and moving. I do feel like we were blessed.